Series 18 - Oral History Interviews conducted by Christopher Sexton - Audio CD copies


Date Range1901 - 1986
Quantity17 cm, 24 CDs
ProvenanceFrank Macfarlane Burnet
Description

Copy of audiotape of interviews by Frank Macfarlane Burnet's biographer, Christopher Sexton, taken during 1985-1986.

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16  Audio and Video Cassettes 1925 - 1989


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18-1 Interview with FMB 1925-1934 - Side A 'India, London, 1925-27'

Run time: 46 minutes 50 seconds
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 5 minutes 6 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: India after the Nobel Prize ceremony; meeting of Nehru.
Date range: 1960s -

Track 2 (length: 5 minutes 0 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: J.B.S. Haldane and his son, communism in biochemistry in Cambridge, England after First World War; first met (in 1946 in London?)
Date range: 1920s - 1940s

Track 3 (length: 4 minutes 36 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Back in India, Colombo; the last sea voyages; flying around India; report to R. Casey; Linda as President of the Lyceum Club, Melbourne.
Date range: 1960s - 1960s

Track 4 (length: 4 minutes 57 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Sydney and Beatrice Web and G.B. Shaw and the Fabian Lectures; Burnet’s leftish tendencies; Barry Jones; politics, non-violence; seeing G.B. Shaw; post-impressionist art - his liking of.
Date range: 1920s - 1970s

Track 5 (length: 5 minutes 17 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Post-impressionist art in Russia - visit; taking in of culture alone - little social life; blast furnaces - limestone and fossils; Beit Fellowship for medical research 1925-27; diaries and letters; stuck in Sydney for 3 months; Ian Wark - trip to Blue Mountains - went sketching.
Date range: 1925 - 1927

Track 6 (length: 4 minutes 54 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Sketching in the Blue Mountains, NSW; England, Salisbury Plain - sketching, water colours; Stonehenge, stone circles, prehistoric England.
Date range: 1920s - 1930s

Track 7 (length: 5 minutes 30 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Bath - architecture; [0:36] Scotland to visit family areas; [0:51] Ship’s surgeon - passage on the ship to England 1925 - getting the job - little work to do - coming into Colombo, Ceylon - interested in the novelty - Suez Canal.
Date range: 1925 - 1925

Track 8 (length: 4 minutes 35 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Passage to England 1925 on a cargo boat - stopping at Malta - giving to beggars; no vehicle in London; [2:35] working conditions at the Lister Institute; worked by himself - no serious training - watching others - virology, new techniques
Date range: 1925 - 1927

Track 9 (length: 5 minutes 24 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Virology, new techniques - beginnings of tissue culture; life at Lister Institute; beginnings of biochemistry; use of animals, titration of bacteriophage; histology; [2:20] isolation of the Influenza virus 1933; PhD - his last earned degree; [2:50] Bundaberg disaster 1928 - Kellaway and the Royal Commission - gave Burnet the job on the bacteriology - did an "excellent job" - his beginnings in immunology; filled in most of his time in 1928 - 1929; [4:30] Polio epidemic 1929 - isolated the virus, antibody tests - work with Jean Macnamara showing that there were specific types - this was the most important discovery.
Date range: 1925 - 1929

Track 10 (length: 1 minutes 30 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Post Lister Institute work with staphlycocal toxins and polio; what was gained at the Lister - nothing really exciting - does not have his thesis.
Date range: 1925 - 1929

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/1 Side A
Date range c. 1920 - 197?, 1920s - 1970s    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/001 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-2 Interview with FMB 1925-1934 - Side B 'Hampstead 1931-33'

Run time: 41 minutes 21 seconds
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 4 minutes 27 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Working in London 1925-27 - St Mary’s where Fleming was working - he knew Fleming; vaccines; working as a Clinical Pathologist (1924?); Howard Florey - met between to trips to England - cynical, queer fish, hard to get on with - good President of the Royal Society of London - better in his old age.
Date range: 1924 - 1960s

Track 2 (length: 5 minutes 25 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Howard Florey - Royal Society of London, family issues - at Oxford - as a down-to-earth person; [3:15] Second time in England 1931 - salary cut from 1,000 pounds per year to 750 - letter from H. Dale offering a scholarship of 1,000 pounds sterling - Linda due with second baby - his sister Ann going with them to England.
Date range: 1925 - 1960s

Track 3 (length: 4 minutes 50 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Traveling to England 1931 - ship - second class - only passengers going all the way through to England - stayed in a boarding house at Bellside Park, near Hampstead - finding a house in Hampstead area for rent - nurse for the babies (Ian - 3 months, Liz - 2 years) at 1 pound per week; [3:45] settling into the National Institute of Medical Research (NIMR), Hampstead - sharing a lab with J.A. Galloway (of Foot and Mouth fame); got on with his bacteriophage work - wanted to work with live viruses - dealings with Henry Dale.
Date range: 1931 - 1932

Track 4 (length: 5 minutes 32 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Getting started at the NIMR - given the job of identifying a virulent virus in canneries - grew the virus on eggs at first attempt - canary pox - (was thought to be fowl plague which was later identified as Influenza A in chickens) - his work was highly regarded at the time - use of photography of viruses; [2:22] the switch to chick embryos - sought out all the viruses being worked on at Hampstead to see if they would grow on chick embryos - which they did; [2:56] meeting with Zhdamov 1950s - invitation to Moscow - virus work in central Asia using Burnet’s monograph on viruses and chick embryos and an egg incubator; [4:50] - double life - bacteriophage experiments and animal virus experiments described.
Date range: 1930s - 1950s

Track 5 (length: 4 minutes 39 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Other activities at NIMR - contact with 'ectromelia' - Dale offered him a post at NIMR - but he had promised to return to Melbourne - installation of a Rockefeller virus laboratory at WEHI; arranged the transfer of the NIMR viruses to Australia 1933; [2:16] 'ectromelia' virus story - was not able to grow it in chick embryos - temperature dependency - grew at 31 degrees C; F. Fenner and post WWII research - mouse pox and cow pox and vaccinia.
Date range: 1930s - 1940s

Track 6 (length: 4 minutes 52 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: .F. Fenner experiments on what happened to ectromelia in mice at the ANU - led to his interest in the pox viruses, myxomatosis and the WHO small pox eradication program to his writing the history of that story; [1:42] vaccination with mouse pox; [3:00] influenza reflections - ferrets - other viruses - Newcastle disease virus of fowls and fowl plague - lethal to chick embryo; Linda and friendships among colleagues.
Date range: 1930s - 1980s

Track 7 (length: 5 minutes 10 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Christopher Andrews - a friend at the time (1932-33)- a bug hunter (moths) - in England - lived near Salisbury; J.A. Gallaway - another friend; other travels in the United Kingdom - no notable holidays due to the age of the children; visited most of the virus laboratories in the UK at the time; he was extremely busy - but visited a lot in London and went to the theatres - the nannies helped in that regard..
Date range: 1932 - 1933

Track 8 (length: 4 minutes 46 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: The beginnings of (almost) annual trips to London; Fenners staying with the Burnets in Melbourne; [1:00] 14 papers as a result of the second trip to England and started thinking about writing a book; [2:30] collaboration with Alford(?) - his collection of viruses - one of the best at the time; virus - C13 - single chain DNA / RNA?. .
Date range: 1930s - 1940s

Track 9 (length: 1 minutes 40 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: C13 virus; Gordon Ada - identification of RNA as the genetic code of viruses; forgetting of much of the work that did end up in the scientific mainstream; references for this period - see WEHI Director’s reports, and history of the Hall Institute.
Date range: 1930s - 1950s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/1 Side B
Date range 1924 - 1980?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/002 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-3 Interview with FMB 1928-1942 - Side A 'Interview 5: Poliomyelitis'

Run time: 47 minutes 37 seconds
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 4 minutes 35 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Influential men: C.J. Martin; Henry Dale; Walter Morgan - blood typing - Englishman; Harden(?) and Reubensin(?) - biochemists; Harriet Chick - a well known figure - a vitamin expert - vitamin D - "the grand old women of vitamins; Silva - vitamin C; all these were people met while working at the Lister Institute.
Date range: 1925 - 1927

Track 2 (length: 4 minutes 40 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Question: Is there now any greater understanding of how bacteriophage survive in the evolutionary sense? - no one has looked at how they survive in nature or their ecology - an opening for study; practical value versus pleasure and long range usefulnes of pure knowldege - keen on digging out the real meaning; [2:50] Question: Phage work ... the peak of his achievement at Hampstead? - not now believed - first rate work: influenza, recombination, enzymes, Nobel nomination by Dale for this work - Sven Gard (?).
Date range: 1930s - 1960s

Track 3 (length: 3 minutes 20 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Bias on the Nobel committee or lack thereof; John Eccles - reflection; Burnet - Nobel Prize for the wrong reason - N.K. Jerne on Burnet, immunity, clonal selection theory.
Date range: 1950s - 1960s

Track 4 (length: 5 minutes 03 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Poliomyelitis - first interest in 1928 - overlane by the big epidemic in 1937 - regard as urgent at the time - knew Jean Macnamara quite well at the time - she may have nudged Burnet to get into it - to convince Kellaway to get the monkeys to do the research; Rockefeller virus - got a copy - recovered monkeys were still susceptible - therefore different strains - a new piece of knowledge - an important step; Rockefeller Institute work - pooling of monkey spinal chords led to the Type 2 strain isolation - now known that there are 3 types..
Date range: 1928s - c1940

Track 5 (length: 4 minutes 49 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Second period of poliomyelitis interest 1937 - Melbourne’s greatest epidemic - 1935-36 big epidemic in New Zealand - a virulent strain that spread readily - with a high incidence of paralysis - infantile infection protecting against later infection; interest in the epidemiology in the period 1929-1937 and was asked to come on the .Committee; difficulty in getting the desired monkeys for research; lodgment in lymph nodes.
Date range: 1928 - c1937

Track 6 (length: 4 minutes 03 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Poliomyelitis 1937 - transmission by saliva, droplets - Dr Derham - children walking round with clothes pegs - this was wrong - found to be an intestinal disease; [1:43] - no facilities to attempt vaccination; 1943 Harvard - J.F. Enders - vaccine production; 1937 epidemic - started in Winter which was unusual - social measures taken.
Date range: 1937 - 1940s

Track 7 (length: 4 minutes 17 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Active research in the clinical aspects of poliomyelitis in 1937 - was not directly involved; antagonism to Jean Macnamara’s theories - her enthusiasm and drive to do something - a different approach to Burnet (if in doubt do not do it); controversy over the giving of serum(?) - did it have any effect - contradicted her at a committee meeting which put him in her bad books; Zwar has published on this story; Iron lung - nothing controversial about that..
Date range: 1937 - 1937

Track 8 (length: 3 minutes 26 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Poliomyelitis - the treatment of paralysis - Jean Macnamara’s ideas on splinting versus Sister Kenny’s ideas on active treatment - massage; published this story in "Changing Patterns" - impressed with Sister Kenny - emormous clinical experience; Who won?
Date range: 1930s - 1940s

Track 9 (length: 5 minutes 13 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Poliomyelitis - working with Alan Jackson on the monkeys - a medical background - Dora Lush also - at the old Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research; Flexner’s group; Sabin - met at the Lister; - maintained contact ever since; Dr Bazely at the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories - Bill Keogh, the Army Chief of Pathology- Burnet recommended Bazely to J.E. Salk to get commercial production going of the polio vaccine.
Date range: 1937 - 1940s

Track 10 (length: 4 minutes 02 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Keogh’s role in commercial production of the polio vaccine; spoke to he Queen about polio - the horror of every young parent at the time; discussion of the experiment he did with Dora Lush - growing the virus - use of a human embryo - lung tissue culture - intestinal tissue culture - which led to the theory that the intestine was the entry point. ..
Date range: 1930s - 1940s

Track 11 (length: 4 minutes 09 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Poliomyelitis experiment - looking for definite evidence of the intestinal theory - only the one embryo available; the use monkey testicle and monkey kidney to make unlimited amount of virus; Enders did not know of Burnet’s work at the time; major contribution with Lush and Jackson during the poliomyelitis research; 1960 - visit to Russia.
Date range: 1928 - 1960s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/2 Side A
Date range 1925 - 196?, 1925 - 1960s    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/003 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-4 Interview with FMB 1928-1942 - Side B 'Interview 5: Poliomyelitis'

Run time: 39 minutes 35 seconds
Number of Tracks: 8 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 4 minutes 51 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: 1954 poliomyelitis test proved that the vaccine was extremely effective - attenuated vaccines - Sabin was getting good results in the monkeys; WHO arranged several meetings and Burnet was chairman of these but does not remember how that happened; discussion of trips 1959 - 1960; Stuart Harris - a source of contention was related to the use of a live vaccine (attenuated) versus and killed vaccine.
Date range: 19s - 19s

Track 2 (length: 5 minutes 36 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Salk vaccine was the killed and proven - Sabin vaccine was attenuated - Russians went with the Sabin vaccine; Sabin went to Russia; Spring 1960 the Russians did an enormous experiment which was very successful - the vaccine taken in a sweetmeat; Burnet visited Russia when the results were coming in; documentation of the compromise solution - large scale experiments needed to be done on both vaccines; [3:20] how do the two vaccines work? - Burnet explains: antibody production - his understanding in 1985 - the benefit of the Sabin poliomyelitis vaccine explained.
Date range: 1950s - 1985

Track 3 (length: 5 minutes 05 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Washington meetings in 1960(?) - the Florida poliomyelitis outbreak in older people; sub-clinical infections in babies giving them immunity - in India and Malta; Burnet predicts the risks of vaccination that some vaccinated adults would be afflicted; [3:30] Chimakov - a leading virologist in Moscow, Russia - crippled by one of the viruses he worked one - visited in 1960.
Date range: 1960 - 1960

Track 4 (length: 4 minutes 23 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Russian trip 1960 - recollections - story of the breakfast at their hotel - trouble with the language - waited till 11.30am - guides arrived - confessed to having no breakfast - but went to meet the President of the Academy of Medical Sciences - where they were served tea and caviar.
Date range: 1960 - 1960

Track 5 (length: 5 minutes 30 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Still describing lunch in Moscow 1960; comments on the work being done - it was the same as what had been done in Australia in the 1940s; interested in the human side of illness but not the theoretical side - science for the benefit of the people - therefore a cultural context that did not encourage the striving for deeper knowledge; Leningrad sight-seeing trip; recollections on his lecture and its translation into Russian; Russian scientists were quite happy to joke about the weaknesses of the Russian system in private.
Date range: 1960 - 1960

Track 6 (length: 5 minutes 02 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Russian Academy of Medical Science - separate of the Academy of Science - medicos went to different universities - why? [1:40] trip to Leningrad by train - met a lecturer in Australian literature at Moscow University but had never met an Australian - reflections on the Russian people.
Date range: 1960 - 1960

Track 7 (length: 4 minutes 19 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Cultural activities in Russia - ballet, Moscow Circus - treatment by the Russians; translation of three of his books; were given 1,000 roubles spending money but had trouble spending - no one discussed politics; showing of slides at his lectures.
Date range: 1960 - 1960

Track 8 (length: 4 minutes 49 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: USA in 1943 - Harvard - a trail of good will; 1970s "Lancet" asked him to write on ‘Men and molecules’ - something controversial - poliomyelitis - worries about the vaccine - is it the right one? - was quite worried that the molecular biologists might change the antigenisity of the vaccine which would open the door to a "virgin soil" epidemic - polio a dangerous organism to play tricks with.
Date range: 1943 - 1970s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/2 Side B
Date range 1943 - 1985, predominantly 1960s.    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/004 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-5 Interview with FMB 1930s-1940s - Sides A and B 'Q-fever, Psittacosis, Herpes of the lips, and Wartime Melbourne'

Run time: 50 minutes 31 seconds
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 5 minutes 17 seconds)
Sound quality: good
Content: Return from Hampstead, 1934. Call from Quarantine dept re parrots arriving in England very sick and diseased, psittacosis timing coincided with start of new Virus department. High mortality rate from psittacosis in labs in adults over 40; discovery that disease was in the form of an enlarged spleen (large proportion of parrots from pet shop had it) with a positive smear. Someone else previously discovered it in America. [3:25] Position in wild. Epidemic in south east Australia in parrots, and cockatoos experiments on domestic and wild birds; Dame Jean MacNamara
Date range: 1934-

Track 2 (length:4:05)
Sound quality: good
Content: K F Mars work aviary bred budgies, we (virus department) gave full story of what happened in the wild- Chicks contracted it from parents and survived in normal conditions in all probability, by the time a bird is 8/9 months old and sold, it was allright, if survived and was sold as adult or sick and young, it would infect people. Useful work. Medley (Vice Chancellor) and John Monash (Chancellor) came to look at Institute at this time. 3 cases of human psittacosis came from this. Work lasted for a little over a year (French contracted mild case). Kept as a standard virus and comes into Q fever story later.
Date range: 1930s

Track 3 (length: 4:22)
Sound quality: good
Content: Kellaway had asked Rockafeller Foundation and obtained support for virus dept, for specifically Australian diseases i.e. Murray Valley (1951), Q fever and psittacosis and other joint efforts. 1936 - Q fever (also know as abattoir fever); Derrick’s experiments on guinea pigs; Burnet’s further experiments with eggs and mice, mice had enlarged spleens quite consistently, cut section of spleen,
Date range: 1936-

Track 4 (length : 6:05)
Sound quality:fair
Content: (Recognition of Q fever as a rickettsiosis cont) saw ‘cytoplasmic inclusions’ in some cells (no of viruses produce inclusion in the psitticosa), and herringbone effect, enough to wonder if there was a visible organism there. Was still working on psittacosis, had standard psittacosis strain ‘Castaneda’ - killed a mouse made a smear from the spleen, stain was castineda, and found there were rickettsia there important discovery, opened up a new field. As it was rickettsia, egg yolk was standard for catching most extraordinarily infectious of all microorganisms; just before going to New Zealand both Burnet and secretaries had attacks, forerunner of series of lab attacks. Got an antibiotic against Q fever. Miss Freeman, biochemist, mouse spleens so full of rickettsii, got pure emulsions of the rickettsii bodies, gave us immunological reagent, used in tiny tubes, saw that it had agglutinated; first legitimate test. Q fever from cattle bandicoot labelled as the primary host in Queensland.
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Track 5 (length 3:45)
Sound quality: fair
Content: History of the Q fever, 1937, World War II, Germans contracted it in Greece, allied invasion, returning Americans picked up in transit camp in Naples, also heard if story from cargo (art). Los Angeles dairies, Rocky Mountains. Derrick called it rickettsia burnetti. Derrick also discovered swine or swineherds disease.
Date range: 1937

Track 6 (length 4:52)
Sound quality: good
Content: Pioneering work in herpes of the lips, discovery that acute stomatitis in children was caused by simplex herpes virus; chick embryo membrane test for immunity, developed by Anderson and Burnet, studies of children in orphanage, Stan Williams patients in Royal Children’s Hospital, Melbourne Grammar class oriented disease.
Date range:

Track 7 (length 2:10)
Sound quality: good
Content: Background of Edward Derrick, Burnet’s relationship with.
Date range:

Track 8 (length 4:50)
Sound quality: good
Content: Impressions of wartime Melbourne, new Melbourne hospital & new Institute, cost, donors; [1:50] early 1942 Hospital finished and handed over two labs to American army pathologists for clinical work (Burnet in charge at time). [3:40] Burnets focus on influenza, influenza had been important in World War I.
Date range: 1942-

Track 9 (length 4:46)
Sound quality: good
Content: Wartime - Rickettsia work at this time, Funder? came down from the army; scrontyfus & Dora Lush, Burnet’s major activity was influenza. [1:25] Personal impressions of Melbourne, and war work. Influenza; Royal Park Camp; army committee on Chemical and Biological Warfare, war in the tropics [3:48] defence research post-war
Date range: 1940s

Track 10 (length 4:53)
Sound quality: good
Content: Influenza work respiratory virus, ought to be able to be grown in the respiratory tract of the chick embryo, which is available to innoculation; if you could develop a method of putting the virus in the amniotic cavity, which Burnet did (description).
Date range-1940s

Track 11 (length 5:20)
Sound quality: good
Content: Beginnings of bacterial genetics (1943), genetic phenomena of mutation. Influenza A Virus; changed capacity to gluttonate chicken cells; Frank Fenner; [3:50] fowl plague (avian influenza virus).
Date range: 1943-

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/3 Sides A & B
Date range 193? - 194?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/005 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-6 Interview with FMB - 1930s-1940s. Side A 'Golden Staph'.

Run time: 46 minutes 51 seconds
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length 4 minutes)
Sound quality: fair
Content: Burnet takes charge of Bacteriology; Bundaberg toxin, collected large collection of stathic chochlar toxin; found strain called "wood" with mutations, mutants were haemolytic, strain from Bundaberg very poor producer of toxin, couldn’t use it.
Date range: 1928-1931

Track 2 (length 4:40)
Sound quality: fair
Content: Aftermath of Bundaberg discovery, toxic disease, first overseas repute, natural anti-toxins in humans.
Date range: 1928-1931

Track 3 (length 4:18)
Sound quality: fair
Content: Work with Miss Freeman; [2:03] September 1931 Dale wrote to Kellaway inviting Burnet to work at the National Institute; work on polio; animal biosis; [3:34] Laidlaw and Smith, beginnings of more physical approach to viruses.
Date range: 1931-

Track 4 (length 4:55)
Sound quality:fair
Content: National Institute, Barnard (microscopist) applied ultraviolet microscopy to viruses; Elphant (Biochemist) interested in filtering through membranes; ultracentrifuge; filtration of viruses; [3:39] Kickoust; malaria

Track 5 (length 4:35)
Sound quality: fair to good
Content: Goodpasture technique, Burnet modifications to it; [3:00] foot and mouth disease, viscecular stomatitis (pig disease), foul plague, Newcastle disease
Date range:

Track 6 (length 4:04)
Sound quality: fair
Content: Burnet and Lush’s part in discovery that foul plague is influenza virus type A (human strain); [0:50] Dora Lush; [1:43] history of discovery influenza virus, first discovered by an Italian in 1901, swine influenza, 1918 flu pandemic; Andrews, Wilson Smith isolated human influenza A in 1933, soaps swine was an influenza type A virus, high proportion of people who’d experienced 1918 flu; [3:08] pop counting method; 1950s egg membrane went out of fashion, tissue culture
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Track 7 (length 4:56)
Sound quality fair
Content: Burnet expounding on his theories of a virus as an organism; psitticosis, Q fever/rickettsia, brucella, LA dairies sick with Q fever, soldiers fighting in Italy in WW2, pox viruses, enzymes, polio viruses, mini-viruses, RNA, viroids; parasitic degeneration
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Track 8 (length 4:24]
Sound quality: poor
Content: flu virus, RNA; [1:00] hepatitis, glandular fever, curio scrapi, cancer work, DNA, parasites; [2:30] D'Herelle, French Canadian published book in 1922, 1923 Burnet started working on it in the pathology lab at Melbourne University; dyssentry, bacterial viruses
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Track 9 (length 4:45)
Sound quality: fair
Content: Burnet discovered that if you had a wide range of bacterial viruses, each one of them was immunologically different; 1950-1952, electron microscope, vibrios, filaments, RNA, DNA; [1:58] 2 key experiments, the first proved as D'Herelle had stated, that multiplication in bacteria was constrained for 20-30 minutes (D'Herelle), 2nd sorting out the antigenic diversity.

Track 10 (length 4:18)
Sound quality:
Content: Lederberg? Genetics of bacteria, Burnet experimentation and paper; [2:40] Martin Schlesinger, Hampstead, first approach to DNA in viruses
Date range:

Track 11 (length 1:50)
Sound quality:fair
Content: Schlesinger; Andrews, Alfred and Burnets work on bacteriophages, Delbruck and associates, isolated viruses to be worked on
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/4 Side A
Date range 1918 - 195?, Predominantly 1928 - 1940s    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Inventory Identifier 18/006 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-7 Interview with FMB 1930s and 1940s. Side B 'Bacteriophage Work'

Run time: 41 minutes 20 seconds
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1 (length 5 minutes 27 seconds)
Sound quality: good to fair
Content: Schlesinger and Burnet’s role in the rise of bacterial genetics and molecular biology; mutants in bacteria; 1943, America genetics of viruses; head of lab devoted to viruses; psittacosis in parrots; Australian X disease (Murray Valley, 1931); sheep disease; flu epidemic, dominant theme until 1957.
Date range: 1936-1943

Track 2 (length 4:00)
Sound quality fair
Content: bacteria; work on bacteriophages immense diversity and obvious living quality, book on viruses, viruses as organisms [3:00] Sir Christopher Andrews and Alfred’s backgrounds;
Date range: early forties

Track 3 (length 7:36)
Sound quality fair
Content: Bacteriology, Andrews, Alfred [1:58] papers on bacteriophages, Medical Research Council publication review re ‘virus like object’; [3:25] bacteriophages; discovery of enzyme of the virus and RDE, neuromenedais.
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Track 4 (length 3:33)
Sound quality fair
Content: bacteriophages; salmonella
Date range:

Track 5 (length 5:06)
Content: Margo McKay, pharge work at Hall Institute, together showed the nature of the form of the association between lysogenic bacteria and viruses; lysogenic virus; antibodies, stem cells, genes, constraints, germ line genes.
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Track 6 (length 3:06)
Content: bacteriophages, work on, recognition that resistance to bacteriophage, which the bacteria could develop, is a phenomenon of mutation and selection; resistant types, resistant colonies, mutational ranges, Social Darwinism, Delbruck.
Date range:

Track 7 (length 5:07)
Content: applied model of purification use to show mutation of the phage to flu work; [1:20] Dora Lush; typhus, her illness and consequent death
Date range: 1940s

Track 8 (length 3:26)
Content: Ian Wood, Burnet’s attempt to administer bacteriophages in an attempt to modify the causes of bacterial infection, 1931 Royal Children’s Hospital, dyssentry; D'Herelle claimed successful results in cholera, rehydration techniques;
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Track 9 (length 3:54)
Content: plaque phages, final phase of work on phages, ‘comprehensive study of the immunological reactions of the bacteriophages in relation to animal viruses’; Australian Journal of Experimental Biology and Medicine
Date range:1932-1940s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/4 Side B
Date range 1931 - 194?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/007 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-8 Interview with FMB - 1943-1944

Run time: 47 minutes 16 seconds
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1 (length 4:47)
Content: Burnet’s time as Acting Director of the Institute during the war, American Army in Melbourne Hospital; bacteriology department (Lakeside Unit); Kellaway; Macarthur, Bronson; Lakeside Hospital [3:00] 1943 The Dunham Lectures at Harvard; Dr B. T. Zwar, Sir Russell Grimwade; American offer of Research Chair at Harvard
Date range: 1941-1943

Track 2 (length 5:45)
Content: Turn down of offer for Research Chair at Harvard; Directorship at the Institute; Burnet as loner, [2:47] Cold Spring Harbour; American Science; American Scientists; [3:20] Kellaway, Burnet’s career aspirations; Institute Directorship; Hugh Ward?; Bill Keogh [5:30]
Date range: 1943?

Track 3 (length 7:11)
Content: Other overseas offers, e.g. first British Immunology Centre; Caltec; [1:29] Grimwade and Zwar; reasons for staying; Burnet Family; Australian patriotism; University of Melbourne, Melbourne Hospital; visit to America [4:08] Academic and Scientific life in America; Avery; Molecular Biology; DNA; Beadle, Tatem; antiobiotics, sulphur diozine; penicillin; education and research in Australian inspired by the American model; bacterial viruses
Date range: 1943?

Track 4 (length 5:26)
Content: Burnet’s trip to America; San Francisco; Professor K. F. Meyer; psittacosis in caged budgerigars; Aerosmith; Professor Decroif?; bacteriophage;
Date: 1940s

Track 5 (length 5:21)
Content: America; Liora Decroif; Aerosmith; Rockefeller Institute; typhoid fever immunity (1923-1924); John H. Northrock? (biochemist) California; Paul Decroif; bacteriophage
Date range: 1940s

Track 6 (length 3:25)
Content: Chicago; Municipal VD Clinic; anti-viral effect of heat; syphilis; GPI (late stage of syphilis); [1:38] Washington; Plotts was an active person on rickettsia, Q fever (1936-1937); Dora Lush; scrub typhus rickettsia.
Date Range: 1940s

Track 7 (length 5:56)
Content: Professor Jester Keifer; rationing medicine in America during war; penicillin; DDT; syphilis; Harvard Club; [2:40] American Scientists and Academics; California; Harvard University; Boston; Q fever; Greg’s discovery re rubella; influenza; Infectious Diseases Hospital
Date range: 1940s

Track 8 (length 4:18)
Content: Harvard University; John Enders; Bart Zenser? (professor of Bacteriology) typhus; mumps; polio; Weller, Robins, Enders (Nobel Prize Laureates); rubella; growing viruses in tissue culture
Date range: 1940s

Track 9 (length 4:59)
Content: Allbright; Aub (bacteriologist looking for toxins); Birdwell (Professor of Medicine); Harvard Doctorate Honorary Degree; 1960 John F. Kennedy; Castle (discovery of hormones vitamins that are concerned with kinitesenemia?; Minnows (assoc with Castle in the discovery); Adams, Great New England Families
Date range: 1940s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/5 Side A
Date range 1941 - 1949?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/008 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-9 Interview with FMB 1943-1944

Run time: 47 minutes 13 seconds
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1 (length 5 minutes, 19 seconds)
Sound: Fair
Content: Harvard Men; Dean?; Diabetes; insulin and pre-insulin; General Russell; E. B. Wilson; Rene Dubos; antibiotics; Fenner; social implications of science; Whitehead; Williams.
Date range:

Track 2: (length 4:45)
Sound: Fair
Content: Dunham Lectures; Virus as organism; War in America; Fort Bragg respiratory infectious group.
Date range:

Track 3: (length 5:03)
Sound: Fair to good
Content: War and post-war era (cont); anti-malarial drugs; scrub typhus; Russia 1960; world population; nutrition, hygiene; penicillin; synthetic drugs; vaccines; polio; diphtheria; practical application
Date range:

Track 4 (length 4:44)
Sound: good
M. Demerec (Bacterial mutationist); Cold Spring Harbour; OD change in influenza virus; mutagens; pre-mutational wash; zinc; later discovery that zinc is a necessary component of enzymes like DNA prelimerais.
Date range: 1950s

Track 5 (length 4:54)
Sound: Good
Content: Cold Spring Harbour, Long Island (cont) Zinc; Barbara McClintock; maize; genes passing from one chromosome to another; immunologists found that bits from more than one chromosome were put into the complex gene which made anti-bodies, which gave a basis for Burnet’s clonal selection theory. [3:56] campus life at Cold Spring Harbour.
Date range: 1950

Track 6 (length 4:58)
Sound: Good
Content: Cold Spring Harbour, Long Island (cont); M. Delbruck; phages, Research Station where scientists gather for symposia, discussion; [2:30] campus life at Harvard Medical School during the war; meningitis; [4:35] Rockefeller, O. T. Avery.
Date range: 1940s-1950

Track 7 (length 5:41)
Sound: Fair to good
Content: O. T. Avery; developed pneumochocis..? into a model for studying bacterial physiology, immunology, genetics; neurospora; Rockefeller; [2:54] Stanford; Beadle; Tatum; genetic code, DNA.

Track 8 (length 3:59)
Sound: Good
Content: Hershey; bacteriophage; DNA; Hamon; Bakersfield C.E. Smith, research program on cochsilioida? Steinbeck Country; K. F. Meyer;
Date range:

Track 9 (length 3:45)
Sound: Good
Content: Kern County; K. F. Meyer; California; San Francisco Bay; Kaiser Ship Guard; Kaiser Medical Service; [3:39] Harvard offer
Date range:

Track 10 (length 3:56)
Sound: Fair to good
Content: Harvard offer; significant aspects of Burnet’s first visit to America; [1:29] Canada, Connell..? Labs at Toronto; penicillin; C. H. Best
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/5 Side B
Date range 194? - 195?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/009 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-10 Interview with FMB 1946 (Wartime work)

Run time: 45:00 minutes
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1: (length 4:51)
Content: 3rd year student at University of Melbourne impressions of 1919 influenza pandemic; 1957 Eric French, swine flu (virus isolated in America after the passage of the pandemic); [3:30] P. Laidlaw, Andrews, Smith, ferret influenza, National Institute, Changing Patterns; Topleigh..? (December 1932)
Date range: 1919-1957

Track 2: (length 5:07)
Sound: good
Content: P. Laidlaw; ferret flu, Influenza A; 1933 swine influenza, 1901 foul plague or avian influenza, haemagglutination; [3:32] 1937 outbreak of flu in Nurses home at Melbourne Hospital; Influenza from the chick embryo; Hampstead; Wilson-Smith;
Date range: 1901-1937

Track 3: (length 4:46)
Sound: poor to fair
Content: effect of flu on chick embryo respiratory tract; development of experimental methods; G. Hirst; viruses from anatoic..? cavity and amniotic cavity;
Date range:

Track 4: (length 5:18)
Sound: poor to fair
Content: Alick Isaacs; interfeiral; [1:10] foul plague, Newcastle, swine PR8, Wilson-Smith; antigenic drift; antigenic shift; 1918 influenza as a recombinant; American troops 1918 in France died of influenza, pandemic flu
Date range:

Track 5: (length 4:58)
Sound: poor to fair
Content: creating recombinants; neurotropic variants; army; experiments; Russian scientists; live virus vaccines; history of live virus vaccines; 1943 Dromana
Date range:

Track 6 (length 4:57)
Sound: fair
Content: Dromana experiment; inoculation; [3:00] February 1942 large scale test of vaccine on 100 army volunteers at Caulfield racecourse;
Date range:

Track 7 (length 4:47)
Sound: fair
Content: February 1942 large scale test of vaccine on 100 army volunteers at Caulfield racecourse cont; influenza A epidemic; nasal vaccine; [2:11] Newcastle disease
Date range:

Track 8 (length 4:58)
Sound: good
Content: resemblance between Newcastle disease lesions, and flu strain; [1:14] 1946 Ray Anderson?; [2:00] wartime work- develop methods of immunisation against influenza, Burnet’s team at the Institute comprised Miss Lynd, Joyce Stone, Eric French, Ray Anderson, people at CSL; [4:00] 1944 death of Dora Lush; foul plague; rickettsiae
Date range:

Track 9 (length 4:58)
Sound: fair
Content: Dora Lush; scrub typhus; death of Lush; Burnet’s reaction to the fatal accident.
Date range: 1943-1944

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/6 Side A
Date range 1901 - 1957    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/10 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-11 Interview with FMB - 1956, Side B

Run Time: 44 minutes 58 seconds
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1 (length 5 minutes 22 seconds)
Sound: very poor
Content: Self and Not Self; biological aspects of infectious disease; immunological tolerance.
Date range: 1937-1940

Track 2 (length 3:10 minutes)
Sound: very poor
Content: immunological tolerance.
Date range:

Track 3 (length 5:36)
Sound: very poor
Content: Nobel Prize with Medawar; the Insitute; thought experiments; transplantation; antibodies; immunology
Date range:

Track 4 (length 6:32)
Sound: very poor
Content: Nobel Prize; ‘lock and key’ hypothesis; immunology; history of immunological hypotheses 1909-; Herbert, Linus Pauling; Leona; selective theory;
Date range: 1950s

Track 5 (length 4:00)
Sound: very poor
Content: Leona; selective theory; production of proto-antibody; the Institute; immunological tolerance
Early 1950s-1957

Track 6 (length 4:33)
Sound: very poor
Content: Laurence Pauling; Burnet’s hypothesis of antibody production; influenza virus; bacteria virus; antibodies; Products and Antibodies.
Date range: 1930s-1940s

Track 7 (length 6:48)
Sound: very poor
Content: Antibodies; meeting Laurence Pauling (organic Chemist) December 1943; protein structure; globulin structure; biological warfare gas; pacifism; MacCarthy;
Date range: 1943-1967

Track 8 (length 5:12)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet’s views on antibody production in 1949; Owen; transplants between chick embryos (1937); experimental zoologists;
Date range: 1937-1949

Track 9 (length 5:38)
Sound: very poor
Content: Owens discovery in 1946 regarding non-identical twins (calves), fused placenta produced two sorts of antibodies; they ‘tolerated’; 1946 meeting with Peter Medawar; Oxford
Date range: 1946

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/7 Side A
Date range 193? - 1957    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/11 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-12 Interview with FMB - 1956, Side B

Run time: 46:51 minutes
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1: (length 3:59)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: Peter Medawar; Nobel Prize; Sir John Eccles; Howard Florey; Sir Alexander Fleming;
Date range: 1950s

Track 2 (length 2:44)
Sound: very poor
Content: Simonsen phenomenon;
Date range:

Track 3 (length 2:17)
Sound: very poor
Content: Schwarz & W. Damashek? discovery in 1959; 6MP;
Date range:

Track 4 (length 7:16)
Sound: very poor
Content: Trip to India researching viruses; Casey (Foreign Affairs Minister); Hampstead Institute, foul pox in canaries; foul pox or bird pox in sparrows; the Linders; impressions of India; Columbo
Date range: 1960s

Track 5 (length 4:45)
Sound: very poor
Content: Madras; impressions of India; Pathological Society of India/Indian Association of Pathologists; Conference;
Date range:

Track 6 (length 6:03)
Sound: very poor
Content: Bombay, Punah (place); impressions of India; Indian Army; American Laboratory (Institute)?; Indian Science
Date range:

Track 7 (length 4:36)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: Punah; impressions of India; [0:48] Bombay; ? Institute; Cobras; [3:35] New Delhi;
Date range:

Track 8 (length 4:39)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: New Delhi; Health Department, introduction to Ghandi’s former Secretary, Communist China; Peking Medical School (Rockefeller Hospital); Delhi; Calcutta; Women’s Hospital run entirely by women;
Date range:

Track 9 (length 4:39)
Sound: very poor
Content: India; Institute of Medical Science; Jacques Corneau? (author of Chance and Necessity); ‘lower class’ India; New Delhi: Taj Mahal; poverty in India;
Date range:

Track 10 (length 5:48)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: Calcutta; poverty in India; language in India; Health Minister Nuro? (woman); Blacknow? University School, Professor of Pathology.
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/7 Side B
Date range 195? - 196?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/12 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-13 Interview with FMB, c.1960s - Side A 'General discussion, including Nobel Prize, Academy of Science'

Run time: 47 minutes 30 seconds
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 5 minutes 14 seconds)
Sound quality: poor.
Content: Meeting Koestler. (Both invited to appear on Barry Jones programme on Channel 7). Impressions of and anecdotes relating to Koestler.

Track 2 (length: 4 minutes 0 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: First path lectures including treatment of TB, sudden observable drop in incidence where medical intervention came to have effect, published 1928.
Date range: 1920s - 1920s

Track 3 (length: 5 minutes 54 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting 1965 decision to establish commonwealth foundation to disperse funds. Menzies chose Burnet to be chairman. Burnet was called upon by dignitary in relation to this. One of guests, Marjorie Smart, caught flu from him - turned out to be a new strain of influenza.
Date range: 1960s - 1960s

Track 4 (length: 5 minutes 20 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Continuation of discussion on Track 3. Periodic membership of British establishment in his role as chairman. 250,000 pounds distributed to good causes, not including medical research. The Director (Chadwick).
Date range: 1960s - 1960s

Track 5 (length: 5 minutes 25 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Relationship between Director and Chairman of the organization. Better impression gained of people "with black skins". Meeting with Prince Philip at Buckingham Palace re rejection of grant application. Description of ornaments in the Prince’s study.
Date range: 1960s - 1960s

Track 6 (length: 4 minutes 09 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Continuation of account of meeting with Prince Philip. Invited to cocktail party at the end of his term so "all was forgiven". Other invitees. The OM - first meeting with the Queen. Foundation meetings.
Date range: 1950s - 1960s

Track 7 (length: 4 minutes 51 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Foundation projects of importance e.g. rooms for professional societies in Nairobi. High Court Judge Owen Dixon(?). Meeting through the Wallaby Club (bushwalking club of professionals and businessmen). Latham.
Dixon had "immense contempt for the ordinary man". Burnet didn’t but couldn’t "bear people talking rubbish easily".
Date range: 1930s - 1960s

Track 8 (length: 3 minutes 09 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Continuation of discussion. Dixon’s OM. Burnet showed him how to wear the award. Melbourne Club dinner for Dixon. Colin Syme’s award of AK and Pansy Wright’s knighthood.
Date range: c. 1960s - 1960s

Track 9 (length: 4 minutes 54 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable, indistinct beginning.
Content: CIBA Foundation. Visit to Capri and meeting with Norwegian writer who lived there. Impressions of Capri. Perugia - visit from Jacques Miller who told Burnet about discovery that removal of thymus from baby mouse - couldn’t recognise other tissue, classic immunological discovery. The enthusiasm felt as a scientist, when another scientist makes a significant discovery.
Date range: c. 1960s - 1960s

Track 10 (length: 4 minutes 02 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable.
Content: Continuation of discussion - making a discovery, Miller, Italy. Invited to dinner in Rome by (Ernst) Chain. Physical description and musicianship of Chain.
Date range: c. 1960s - 1960s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/8 Side A
Date range 192? - 196?, 1920s - 1960s    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/013 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-14 Interview with FMB, c.1960s - Side B 'Nobel Prize, South Africa'

Run time: 46 minutes 57 seconds
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 2 minutes 25 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: More on (Ernst) Chain. Also speaking on Florey.
Date range: c. 1960s - 1960s

Track 2 (length: 4 minutes 6 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: First meeting with Florey (when working with Kellaway at the Hall Institute) when Florey looking at possibility of taking role at ANU. Venice. Sights seen. Pictures he took there.
Date range: 1930s - 1960s

Track 3 (length: 3 minutes 32 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Continued reminiscences of Venice trip.
Date range: c. 1960s

Track 4 (length: 2 minutes 09 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Speaks of a meeting of group of agriculturists interested in tissue culture of plants and genetic engineering (in the era before molecular biology).
Date range: c. 1960s

Track 5 (length: 5 minutes 45 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Visit to Florey. Pretty unlike Burnet. Fleming (Hampstead era). Almoth(?) Wright, (Director of St. Mary’s where Fleming worked). Fleming’s work at the time (not very impressive). Fleming’s role in the penicillin story - recognizing penicillin’s inhibiting effect on staph. Florey, Chain and the Americans developed.
Date range: c. 1930s - 1950s

Track 6 (length: 3 minutes 44 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Best - chief figure in Canadian scientific establishment. Banting - "fairly second rate scientist".
Date range: c. 1940s

Track 7 (length: 5 minutes 51 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: South African visit in 1959 at government invitation. South African colleague Van Venende. Pro-South African point of view. White middle class life.
Date range: 1950s - 1950s

Track 8 (length: 4 minutes 34 seconds)
Sound quality: poor
Content: Visit to Soweto. Albino negroes. Impressions of the countryside. Uganda. Papyrus swamps. Khartoum. Rome. Czechoslovakia. Travels - one of the fringe benefits.
Date range: 1950s - 1950s

Track 9 (length: 6 minutes 48 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Set up of Academy of Science. Main instigators - Oliphant, Hugh Ward, representative from an embryonic Royal Society in Canberra. 25 Australian scientists picked to be foundation members. Role envisaged for Academy and its relationship with the Royal Society (England) - an equal one.
Date range: 1950s - 1950s

Track 10 (length: 3 minutes 49 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Continuation of discussion. Never sponsored an Australian to the Royal Society. Status of Academy.
Date range: 1950s - 1980s

Track 11 (length: 4 minutes 10 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Continuation of discussion re the Academy.
Date range: 1950s - 1950s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/8 Side B
Date range 193? - 198?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/014 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-15 Interview with FMB - c. 1960s, Side A 'Academy of Science'

Run Time: 69:27 minutes
Number of Tracks: 13 Tracks

Track 1 (length 5:55)
Sound: distorted, very poor
Content: Government and Science; establishment of the Australian Academy of Science (AAS); Mark Oliphant, first President; Eccles; Gerard
Date range: 1955-1958;

Track 2 (length 4:47)
Sound: very poor, Burnet can barely be heard
Content: Australian Academy of Science (AAS) first 13 years; Presidency of the Australian Academy of Science; Anglo-Australian telescope; Biological Survey of Australia; Conservation; Salination; Ecology; John Dunlop (Head of CSR);
Date range: 1950s-1960s

Track 3 (length 7:14)
Sound: distorted, very poor
Content: Burnet’s term as President of the Australian Academy of Science; Biological Survey of Australia; Chinese Delegation; [2:33] International Relations Group; Rees, A. Lloyd; Victorian Group; Gottschalk, Alfred
Date range:

Track 4 (length 4:00)
Sound: distorted, very poor
Content: Australian Academy of Science during Burnet’s Presidency; University House; Sir Charles Darwin (grandson of Charles Darwin who authored the theory of evolution); W.C. Wentworth;
Date range:

Track 5 (length 6:02)
Sound: distorted, very poor
Content: Burnet’s Presidency of the Australian Academy of Science; Rees, A. Lloyd; Burnet’s thoughts on the end of pure scientific research; laboratory biology; DNA.
Date range:

Track 6 (length 6:46)
Sound: very poor
Content: Hercus, Prof; autoimmune disease in mice; strains; genetic variations; NZB, NZW;
Date range:

Track 7 (length 4:19)
Sound: very poor
Content:1951 Visit to America, Cold Spring Harbour; Loria (Italian); Dale Brook; phage work; Andrews; Alfred; Visconte; Max Delbruck, Hershey
Date range: 1951

Track 8 (length 6:59)
Sound: very poor
Content: Cold Spring Harbour; Visconte; Max Delbruck, Hershey; Jim Watson; Mallaoe; Crick; Don Cairns (Head of Cold Spring Harbour?)
Date range: 1951

Track 9 (length 5:02)
Sound:
Content: Crick, theories regarding sleep; Linus Pauling; helicon structure of DNA; Watson, Crick model; Delbruck; [2:28] Cold Spring Harbour, America; Hershey; Lorio; Demerec, M. (Director of Cold Spring Harbour in the 1950s); zinc; manganese;
Date range: 1951

Track 10 (length 7:11)
Sound:
Content: function of zinc; Demerec, M.; manganese; mutability; 1967 Symposium at Cold Spring Harbour; Burnet gave Opening Address; start of Egypt, Israeli war; clonal selection; Burnet receives ‘official recognition’, highpoint of career; Baruj Bnacarraf
Date range: 1967-

Track 11 (length 1:41)
Sound: very poor
Content: Baruj Bnacarraf (Head of Department of Immunology at Harvard); 1967 Symposium at Cold Spring Harbour
Date range: 1967

Track 12 (length 5:24)
Sound: very poor
Content: Emperor of Japan; visit to Japan immediately after winning Nobel Prize; main lecture at Japanese Bacteriological Society; Japan Federation of Junior Tailors’ Club;
Date range: 1954

Track 13 (length 3:59)
Sound: very poor
Content: Association of Scientific Workers (founded 1937, Australia); communism; Burhop; The Age;
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/9 Side A
Date range 1951 - 1967    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/15 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-16 Interview with FMB c.1960s, Side A 'Clonal Selection Theory'

Run time: 37:39 minutes
Number of Tracks: 8 Tracks

Tra ck 1 (length 5:15)
Sound: poor
Content: Clonal Selection Theory, beginnings; clonal manipulation of viruses; bacteriophages; influenza; innoculate eggs; titration; amniotic cavity; mutation
Date range: 1942

Track 2 (length 4:09)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Clonal Selection Theory, beginnings; Cold Spring Harbour; mice maize; drosophila; bacteriophages; bacteria; micro-biological genetics; Jerne; immunisation; antibody producing cells;
Date range: 1942-

Track 3 (length 6:48)
Sound: poor
Content: Clonal Selection; anemia; antibody; disproving of clonal selection in America; stem cells; somatic mutation;
Date range: - 1967

Track 4 (length 3:26)
Sound: poor
Content: Burnet and Fenner (1949); self-recognition system; antigen; antibody;
Date range: 1949-

Track 5 (length 4:11)
Sound: poor
Content: Mutation; antibody production (1957); Pauling, L. ;
Date range: 1957

Track 6 (length 4:24)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: Clonal Selection Theory; molecular approach; tolerance; protein; antibody pattern; monoclonal antibodies; antigen; cells; Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research; antibody production in viruses; Kellaway;
Date range:

Track 7 (length 4:54)
Sound: poor
Content: Walter and Eliza Hall Intitute; Lederberg, trip to Australia, visit Burnet, influenza virus genetics; clonal selection theory; reproduction of bacteria; Gustav Nossal goes to Stanford to work with Lederberg; 1967 antibody symposium; Burnet gave opening address, Jerne gave closing;
Date range:

Track 8 (length 4:29)
Sound: poor
Content: clonal selection theory today; genes; somatic mutation;
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/10 Side A
Date range 1942 - 1967    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/16 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-17 Interview with FMB c.1960s, Side B 'General discussion, including Future of Science, Retirement in 1965, Kellaway and his directorship.

Run time: 47:05 minutes
Number of Tracks: 11Tracks

Track 1 (length 4:19)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet’s semi-popular theories; Fenner; clonal selection theory; theories of antibody; historical perspective
Date range: 1960s

Track 2 (length 2:03)
Sound: very poor
Content: clonal selection theory;
Date range: 1957-1967

Track 3 (length 3:26)
Sound: poor
Content: Burnet’s semi-popular theories and public statements, ‘the end of pure science research; President of the Australian Academy of Science; genetic code; molecular physics, molecular biology and chemistry; natural proteins; 1954, last of human infectious diseases
Date range: 1960s - current (i.e. 1985, time of interview)

Track 4 (length 3:40)
Sound: poor
Content: Direction of pure research; nuclear weapons; (1939) nuclear fission; eugenics; molecular biology; genetic variation; genetic characteristics.
Date range: 1960s

Track 5 (length 4:29)
Sound: fair
Content: Genetic engineering; Burnet’s anthropic principle; ‘man as god in the making’; war; morals; evolution; white blood cells; immunity; haemaproatic system; stem cells; cancer; leukemia
Date range: 1960s - current (i.e. 1985, time of interview)

Track 6 (length 4:58)
Sound: fair
Content: Nuclear war; national security; likelihood of war; [3:50] pure science; social application;
Date range: 1960s - current (i.e. 1985, time of interview)

Track 7 (length 5:06)
Sound: fair
Content: Peter Brian?; Burnet’s public statements; molecular biology; the atom; role of science and scientists; civilization; human behaviour; religion;
Date range: 1960s - current (i.e. 1985, time of interview)

Track 8 (length 3:30)
Sound: fair
Content: Darwinian theory of evolution; clonal selection theory; molecular biology; [1:44] occasion of Burnet’s retirement on 24 August 1965 at Wilson Hall.
Date range: 1965

Track 9 (length 4:48)
Sound: Burnet’s retirement; Presidency of the Australian Academy of Science; Burnet talks about his social behaviour, shyness.
Content:
Date range: 1965

Track 10 (length 4:23)
Sound: fair
Content: Burnet’s retirement at Wilson Hall; Casey; Syme; Nossal; Gordon Ada; [2:02] Kellaway; R. D. (Pansy) Wright; Burnet’s appointment as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute;
Date range: - 1965

Track 11 (length 6:16)
Sound: fair
Content: Kellaway’s Directorship of The Institute; Burnet’s role as Senior Hospital Pathologist under Kellaway; 1925 trip to England; Boycott?(name of scientist Burnet worked under in England); Martin;
Date range: 1920s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/10 Side B
Date range 192? - 1985, Predominantly 1957 - 1967    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/17 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-18 Interview with FMB - personal, Side A

Run time: 47:07 minutes
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1 (length 4:20)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Florey; Oxford; James Gale?
Date range: -1955

Track 2 (length 5:16)
Sound: fair
Content: Alexander Todd, biochemist, nature of nucleic acids, important in development of molecular biology; reception at Buckingham Palace. [4:26] Richard Doll; Hill.
Date range: -1977

Track 3 (length 4:26)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Cigarette smoking; Richard Doll; Hill; lung cancer.
Date range: 1950s - 1970s

Track 4 (length 4:26)
Sound: fair
Content: Richard Doll; cigarette smoking; lung cancer; epidemiology; [1:44] Eccles; Australian Academy of Science; neurology; Catholocism; Eccles personal life, family life.
Date range:

Track 5 (length 4:52)
Sound: fair
Content: Eccles; [2:20] Valdenstrom? paraprotenemia; clonal selection; Johnathan Miller; Fred Miller; James Spence.
Date range:

Track 6 (length 4:52)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Gottschalk; Fenner; Colin Syme; influenza virus; [3:57] S.G. Anderson; National Institute of Medical Research, Hampstead.
Date range:

Track 7 (length 6:01)
Sound: fair
Content: Eric French; Walter and Eliza Hall Institute, change from viruses to immunology; CSIRO; Ian Wood; Anderson; Damachek; autoimmune disease; Coombs test; clonal selection theory (first draft); Ian Mackay; paraproteinemia; hepatitis; antigen; glandular fever; antibody
Date range: 1956

Track 8 (length 4:45)
Sound: fair
Content: antigen; paraproteinemia; Damachek; American Association of Physicians; [1:49] Davis McCaughey; Shute
Date range: 1956-

Track 9 (length 6:10)
Sound: Fair to poor
Content: friendships; Colin Syme; shyness; Bill Burns; trip to New Zealand; Baltimore; lymphatic leukaemia; American confidence, personal approach; [5:15] resurrection; antigen.
Date range:

Track 10 (length 1:51)
Sound: very poor
Content: Gustav Nossal; Reshaping Life; antibody; clonal selection.
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/11 Side A
Date range 195? - 197?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
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Inventory Identifier 18/18 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-19 Interview with FMB - personal, Side B

Run time: 47:13
Number of Tracks: 9

Track 1 (length 3:41)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: molecular genetics; genetic code; [2:10] Linda Burnet; marriage.
Date range:

Track 2 (length 7:02)
Sound: poor
Content: Linda Burnet; marriage; children; personal life; daughters (Deborah Burnet, Elizabeth Burnet); Ian Burnet.
Date range:

Track 3 (length 3:09)
Sound: poor
Content: Ian Burnet; lumber work; Toronto; Harry Giddy;
Date range:

Track 4 (length 4:43)
Sound: poor
Content: Ian Burnet; mining; studies; foreign legion; work; Department of Transport; economics; commerce; [4:36] Linda Burnet (nee Druce), first meeting with.
Date range: 1920s, 1950s-

Track 5 (length 7:22)
Sound: poor
Content: Linda Burnet (nee Druce), first meeting with; Melbourne Hospital; George Simpson; Linda’s illness and death; dedication to Linda in Changing Patterns; wife of a scientist.
Date range: 1920s-1970s

Track 6 (length 4:03)
Sound: very poor
Content: Linda Burnet (nee Druce); Hazel Burnet (nee Jenkin), Burnet’s second wife.
Date range: 1970s
(CLOSED)

Track 7 (length 5:14)
Sound: very poor
Content: Hazel Burnet (nee Jenkin), Burnet’s second wife; Arthur Hughes; Davis McCaughey (1970s-) [3:25] Lederberg, J.; bacteriophage, mutational change and resistance; phage; virus mutations (1950s).
Date range: 1950s, 1970s
(CLOSED)

Track 8 (length 6:24)
Sound: poor to very poor
Content: Lederberg, J.; phage work; bacteriophage; antibody; single cell technique; Gustav Nossal.
Date range: 1950s

Track 9 (length 5:32)
Sound: poor
Content: Niels Jerne; clonal selection; selective theory; [1:13] immunology; antibody; somatic mutation in stem cells; randomisation; evolution
Date range: 1950s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/11 Side B
Date range 192? - 197?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/19 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-20 Anecdotes about FMB 'Interview 9: Anecdotes of Sir James Spence, Pickles etc.', Side A

Run time: 60:57 minutes
Number of Tracks: 11 Tracks

Track 1 (length 5:43)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Influenza virus; haemagglutenation test; The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute’s switch to immunology under Burnet; policies regarding scientific papers, credit to researchers for original work; Anti-Cancer Council; Gustav Nossal.
Date range: 1956-

Track 2 (length 4:30)
Sound: fair to poor
Content: Directorship of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; policies; research papers; talks; process of discovery in science.
Date range:

Track 3 (length 5:25)
Sound: fair
Content: Professor of Experimental Medicine at University of Melbourne; Medley, Sir John; relationship between The Institute and University; influenza; herpes; Anderson; work from 1946-1952; virus action on cells; effect of influenza and related viruses on the cell surface; receptor-destroying enzyme (RDE); original and derived type viruses.
Date range: 1946-1952

Track 4 (length 6:35 )
Sound: fair
Content: receptor-destroying enzyme (RDE); The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; Ian Mackay; production of antibody producing cells; Clinical Research Unit; Goldstrum; cyalic acid; Isaacs discovery of inteferol?; Melbourne strain, foul plague, chorioallantoic cavity; inoculation.
Date range: 1946-1952

Track 5 (length 6:54)
Sound: fair
Content: 1946 trip to England; Royal Society of London; post-war research; Rubert?; Hill; microbiology; metallurgy; iron ore.
Date range: 1946-

Track 6 (length
Sound: fair
Content: Common Cold Research Centre, Salisbury; Andrewes, Sir Christopher; infectious disease during war; human experimentation; inoculations with the common cold; moths; [3:20] Stonehenge; 1950 & 1954 Salisbury visits; Biological Warfare Centre; Henderson; [5:05] 1946 trip; W.N. Pickles; 1950 James Spence.
Date range: 1946-1954

Track 7 (length 6:35)
Sound: fair
Content: epidemiology; interests and hobbies; clinical work; Stoll; phage work; invitation to go to India; cobra; polio; rehydration; Pickles, W. N.; [3:22] observations of post-war England.
Date range: 1946-

Track 8 (length 5:06)
Sound: fair to good
Content: outbreak of myxomatosis; Ian Clunies-Ross; CSIRO; Anderson; Fenner; Ratcliffe;
Date range: 1950-1951

Track 9 (length 5:49)
Sound: fair to good
Content: Reeves from California, leader in mosquito born viruses; Queensland; Anderson; [4:00] 1950 trip to England; James Spence; invitation to give lectures at Hammersmith; Hopkins; Dacie, John V.
Date range: 1950

Track10 (length 5:47)
Sound: fair to good
Content: James Spence; Royal Society of London; James Spence Medal for contribution to paediatrics; Western Australia; biological aspects of infectious disease; first meeting with; tribute to James Spence; shared ideas; ecological approach to infectious disease; need for population control; epidemiology; clinical immunization of children; polio; visit to Newcastle.
Date range: 1948-1950s?

Track 11 (length 1:54)
Sound: fair to good
Content: Changing Patterns; James Spence; English aristocracy; Collingwood, Duke of Northumberland; Nelson.
Date range: 1950s?

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/12 Side A
Date range 1946 - 195?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/20 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-21 Anecdotes about FMB 'Interview 9: Anecdotes of Sir James Spence, Pickles etc.', Side B & Interview about FMB - Ian Mackay, Side A.

Run time: 65:24 minutes
Number of Tracks: 13 Tracks

Source: 16/12 Anecdotes about FMB
Side B: F.M. Burnet

Track 1 (length 5:02)
Sound: fair to good
Content: Visit to Newcastle; James Spence; English aristocracy; Aymwick/Aynwick Castle (seat of Northumberlands); Linda Burnet; Duchess of Northumberland.
Date range: 1950s

Track 2 (length)
Sound: fair to good
Content: Sight-seeing around England; Ancient Roman ruins in England; [1:54] Lady Ridley; James Spence.
Date range: 1950
CLOSED

Track 3 (length 5:20)
Sound: fair
Content: Visit to England; Copenhagen society; aristocracy; Manson?; James Spence; shared views of Spence and Burnet on the teaching of Medicine; Thousand Family Survey.
Date range: 1950

Track 4 (length 4:15)
Sound: fair
Content: Impact of meeting with James Spence; James Spence Medal; Pickles, W. (Dr Will); infectious hepatitus.
Date range: 1950 -

Track 5 (length 5:23)
Sound: fair
Content: Cold Spring Harbor, second visit in 1950, and various other visits); Jim Watson; Delbruck, M.; bacteriophages; Hershey; DNA; Double Helix paper; 1967 Cold Spring Harbor Symposium; Niels Jerne grant,
Date range: 1950-1956

Track 6 (length 3:28)
Sound: fair
Content: Nobel Prize; clonal selection; Niels Jerne; monoclonal antibodies; Cold Spring Harbour; Herter Lectures (Dr Christian Herter); Johns Hopkins University; Johns Hopkins Medical School, Baltimore; Hershey; Karl Meyer; Spence, James.
Date range: 1950s

Source: 16/13 Interview with FMB - Ian Mackay
Side A

Track 7 (length 4:44)
Sound: good
Content: 1946, 1944 Florey visit; desmonpost-war reconstruction team, Departmental Committee on University ?; Coombs?; NHMRC talks about Burnet’s character; scientific process; idea of the scientist; Burnet’s success as a scientist, and as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; fame and posterity.
Date range: 1940s-1960s

Track 8 (length 4:54)
Sound:
Content: Burnet’s success as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; fame and posterity; leadership qualities; dealing with scientists.
Date range: 1940s-1960s

Track 9 (length 6:08)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; Cairns and Fessel; admiration for, personality clash with Gajdusek, Carleton; Ian Wood; Gustav Nossal; Mackay’s regard for Burnet.
Date range: 1940s-1960s

Track 10 (length 5:21)
Sound: good
Content: relationship between Burnet and Mackay; Burnet’s view of Mackay, clinicians, clinical science; gap between pure and clinically applied science; Australian Academy of Science; Royal Society of London; autoimmune disease; immunology.
Date range: 1950s-1970s

Track 11 (length 5:43)
Sound: good
Content: Friendship between Burnet and Mackay; male friendship, nature of; Boobooks Club; social activities; Autoimmune Diseases: Pathogenesis, Chemistry and Therapy.
Date range: 1950s-1970s

Track 12 (length 4:29)
Sound: good
Content: Mont Albert; NH&MRC; Wright, R. D. (Pansy); Richard Lovin? University of Melbourne, Department of Medicine; fights with; Ian Wood.
Date range:

Track 13 (length 5:12)
Sound: good
Content: observations of Burnet in later life; preparation for death, philosophical acceptance of death, agnosticism; writings of Fries; Mont Albert; Hazel Burnet’s illness;
Date range: 1980s-1986

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/12 Side B & 16/13 Side A
Date range 194? - 1986    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/21 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-22 Interview about FMB - Gustav Nossal

Series 18/Number 22
Run time: 65:34 minutes
Number of Tracks: 13 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 3:55)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; Burnet the scientist; capacity to move from the particular to the general; 1920s bacteriophage work; virology first twenty years; immunology; ecology of epidemics; deep thinker; lateral thinker.
Date range: 1920s-

Track 2 (length: 4:51)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; always had his eye on the big picture as opposed to, perhaps to the detriment of smaller details; comparison with Frank Fenner; ecromydia; immunology of small pox; mouse pox model; nature of science research (incremental); experimental work; competitive; scottish presbeterian influence.
Date range: 1940s -

Track 3 (length: 4:26)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; negative reaction to new technology; instrumentation for biochemical work; effect of this on The Institute and scientists; Gordon Ada; The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; Ray Anderson; Ian Wood.
Date range: 1944 - 1965

Track 4 (length: 4:44)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; daily agenda as Director; lab work; Hughes, Manager of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; Marge Powell; adminstration work; work habits; bulk of every day spent in the lab; Burnet at sixty years of age; scottish presbeterian background. Move to immunology from virology. Hard working.
Date range: 1944 – 1965

Track 5 (length: 6:17)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; Derrick Rowley; two great legacies; clonal selection theory; concept of immunological tolerance; young scientists Gustav Nossal; Gordon Ada; Don Metcalf; Jacques Miller; Socrates; Burnet as teacher; founded a school of biology; microbiology; elitism in science; nature of science, world of ideas; ambivalence towards biochemistry; cellular biology; physiology;
Date range: 1920s - 1980s

Track 6 (length: 5:16)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; notions about molecular biology; 1967 Cold Spring Harbor; biochemistry; socio-philosophical matters; Mark Oliphant; Rene Dubos; ecology; sociology; Huxley, T. H.; scientific ethos, meaning of science for humankind.
Date range: 1965 -

Track 7 (length: 4:48)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; qualities as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute and Scientist; ideas; influence over scientists; teacher; Frank Fenner; microbiology; small pox; mouse pox model; collegiality; Gustav Nossal; tolerance; clonal selection theory; influenza virus; Burnet’s defects; difficulty in working with people on same idea
Date range: 1944 – early 1950s

Track 8 (length: 6:03)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; virology period; didn’t like criticism of ideas, people challenging Burnet’s primacy; Steven Fasicus & John Cairns; French; Gray Anderson; Dotric? (biochemist); curing of that defect in second Burnet period of his Directorship in the mid fifties to mid-sixties; Donald Metcalf; Ian Mackay; Gustav Nossal; beginning of the immunology era; Gordon Ada; teacher/student relationship; Jake Firth; Lederberg.
Date range: 1944 - 1965


Track 9 (length: 6:56)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; relationship with Donald Metcalf; Gordon Ada; Gustav Nossal; Jacques Miller; Burnet as Director of The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; growth, administration; funding; dislike of medical politics; NH&MRC; Dr Wood; Hughes (Hughesy); Gustav Nossal as successor; immunology; relationship of Linda and Frank Macfarlane Burnet; devoted to eachother.
Date range: 1944-1965

Track 10 (length: 3:22)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; relationship of Linda and Frank Macfarlane Burnet; their children - Deborah, Elizabeth, Ian; role of Linda Burnet.
Date range: 1944-1965

Track 11 (length: 6:11)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; relationship of Linda and Frank Macfarlane Burnet; role of Linda Burnet; her relationship with staff; realtionship between Hazel Jenkins and FMB; mellowing of Burnet; early reputation as a stern man; Pat Lind (key personal assistant); single-mindedness; ambitious.
Date range: 1944-1965

Track 12 (length: 3:58)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; relations with others; towards the end; personal relationships; Colin Syme; Gustav Nossal; Ian Mackay.
Date range: 1944-1965

Track 13 (length: 4:41)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet; Nossal’s view of; views on broader society, naïve; speeches bore little relation to political questions of the day; lived life very much in science, own views; Professor R. R. H. (Dick) Lovell.
Date range: 1944 -

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/14 Sides A & B
Date range 1920? - 1986    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/22 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-23 Interview about FMB - David White, Side A

Run time: 47:04 minutes
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1 (length 6:18)
Sound: good
Content: 1957 Australian National University Conference; Lederberg; Burnet’s genius, qualities; fourteen years at University of Melbourne; work; character
Date range: 1957-

Track 2 (length 4:26)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s hobbies; entymology; bird watching; collaboration on the Natural History of Infectious Diseases; publications; ecology of infectious disease; Cambridge University Press; molecular biology;
Date range: 1950s-1972

Track 3 (length 4:12)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s work habits; Burnet Room; original manuscript; lab book; handwriting; notetaking; drafts; clear views; intellectual capacity; hobbies, drawing diagrams; protestant work ethic.
Date range:

Track 4 (length 4:59)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s conversation; work habits; relationship between the University of Melbourne and Burnet during Directorship, Date range: 1940s-1965

Track 5 (length 3:37)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s priorities, research activities; The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; privileges and titles bestowed by University of Melbourne; membership of the Medical Faculty; Board of University; Professor of Experimental Medicine, University of Melbourne; Gustav Nossal, Professor of Medical Biology; community involvement.
Date range: 1940s-1965

Track 6 (length 4:30)
Sound: good
Content: Relationship between The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute and the University of Melbourne during Burnet’s Directorship of the Institute; relationship with the Medical Faculty was distant.
Date range: 1944-1965

Track 7 (length 5:45)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s standing as a virologist, immunology; Fenner; ahead of his time; early 1930s, London, bacteriophage work, discovered phenomenum of lysogeny; genetic coding in viruses; late 1930s, 1940s developed technique of cultivating viruses in chick embryos; Wartime work - genetics, identify genes of viruses, discovered that in most viruses, certainly influenza, no single gene responsible for virulence; influenza vaccine;
Date range: 1930-1940s

Track 8 (length 4:36)
Sound: good
Content: Wartime work- first person to develop a live attenuated live avirulent influenza vaccine; influenza pandemics in wars; herpes; epiodemalogical work; polio (first demonstrated three separate types of polio that weren’t cross-protective); rickettsi; Q fever; psittacosis; scrub typhus; Dora Lush.
Date range: 1940s

Track 9 (length 4:43)
Sound: good
Content: 1957 switch of Institute to Immunology from virology; last of the ‘lone scientists’; nature of scientific work, modern scene in science; Burnet was a solitary research worker, solitary scientist, view of technology; chick embryo; Hirst; haemagglutination;
Date range: 1957-

Track 10 (length 3:51)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s view of technology; protestant work ethic upbringing; mid-1950s revolution in the technology of virology, development of cell culture.
Date range: 1950s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/15 Side A
Date range 1930 - 1965    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/23 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-24 Interview about FMB - David White, Side B

Run time: 39:56 minutes
Number of Tracks: 8 Tracks

Track 1 (length 4:31)
Sound: good
Content: mid 1950s-use of cell culture; 1960s development of molecular biology, biochemistry; world of science becoming molecular; switch at The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute from Virology to Immunology.
Date range: 1950s-1960s

Track 2 (length 5:11)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet’s continuing interest in virology; ahead of his time; immunology; Nobel Prize; future application of molecular biology;
Date range: 1957-1980s

Track 3 (length 5:44)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet, White’s views on; intellectual honesty; lack of enthusiasm for molecular biology; priority for distribution of resources towards delivering medical care to developing countries; development of vaccines; eradication of small pox; polio; measles; vaccines for developing countries.
Date range: 1950s-1970s

Track 4 (length 6:29)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet, White’s views on; scepticism for molecular biology; future of science; effect of infectious disease, famine, war; ecology; hygiene; sanitation; vaccines; great believer in analogy between human behaviour and animal behaviour; Konrad Lorenz.
Date range: 1970s-

Track 5 (length 5:21)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet, White’s views on; key characteristics; self-sufficient; protestant work ethic; solitary research worker; great intellectual capacity; hypotheses; theoretical notions; Charles Darwin.
Date range:

Track 6 (length 4:11)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet, White’s views on; intellectual capacity; ability to think of biology in the broadest sense; ecology; lateral thinker; Charles Darwin (Burnet’s hero); solitary research worker.
Date range:

Track 7 (length 1:51)
Sound: good
Content: Burnet, White’s view on; personality, intellectual honesty, social naivete'; on receiving OM from Queen.
Date range: 1970s

Track 8 (length 6:33)
Sound: good
Content: Hazel Jenkin; personality before illness (shingles); work at the University; Heather Jenkin Research Library; illness (shingles) and subsequent deterioration; development of alzheimers; marriage to Burnet.
Date range: 1970s-1980s

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/15 Side B
Date range 195? - 1986?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/24 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-25 Interview about FMB - R.D. Wright and FMB, Side A 'Interview with R. D. Wright'

Run time: 42:32 minutes
Number of Tracks: 9 Tracks

Track 1 (length 6:12)
Sound: very poor
Content: Florey; relationship between University of Melbourne and Walter and Eliza Hall Institute; NH&MRC; State University Grant; funding; switch from virology to immunology; Cairns.
Date range: 1944-

Track 2 (length 4:54)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet, White’s views on; Menzies, Sir Robert, influence on Burnet; politics; public statements
Date range: 1949-

Track 3 (length 4:06)
Sound: very poor
Content: Menzies, Sir Robert, Burnet’s association with; politics; Burnet’s various semi-popular publications, social theory, ecology; Florey, Howard.
Date range: 1949-1970s

Track 4 (length 3:59)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet, Wright’s views on; Dominant Mammal; Endurance of Life; Burnet’s Autobiography; elitism; honesty.
Date range: 1940s-1980s

Track 5 (length 5:04)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet, Wright’s views on; Burnet’s distant relationship with University of Melbourne during his Directorship of The Institute; Kellaway, Charles; Nossal, Gustav; work priorities; Hazel Jenkins
Date range: 1944-1970s

Track 6 (length 4:04)
Sound: very poor
Content: Sir Colin Syme; Burnet, Wright’s views on; Menzies, Sir Robert; public statements.
Date range: 1940s-1970s

Track 7 (length 4:41)
Sound: very poor
Content: Menzies, Sir Robert, influence on Burnet; public statements; old age; early career; Charles Kellaway; Gustav Nossal.
Date range: 1930s-1970s

Track 8 (length 6:18)
Sound: very poor
Content: Gustav Nossal; Burnet, Wright’s views on; Linda Burnet; Sir Colin Syme; Sir Robert Menzies.
Date range:

Track 9 (length 3:10)
Sound: very poor
Content: Burnet, Wright’s views on. Christopher Sexton.
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/16 Side A
Date range 1940? - 1986?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/25 Box Number 1 Series 18
18-26 Interview about FMB - R.D. Wright and FMB, Side B 'General talk with F.M. Burnet; Change-over period at the Institute; writing and dreams'

Run time: 46 minutes 47 seconds
Number of Tracks: 10 Tracks

Track 1 (length: 5 minutes 08 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable, indistinct beginning.
Content: Recent first meeting with Bob Hawke. Menzies - never close to him. Appointment to Commonwealth Foundation. Initial enthusiasm for atomic power. More and more anti nuclear wars but not anti nuclear industry.
Date range: 1960s - 1980s

Track 2 (length: 4 minutes 56 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: NHMRC grant application for the Hall Institute that Pansy Wright thought was rather self interested. Invitation to take directorship of a British institute - used to strengthen his case with the NHMRC. Invitation to Harvard chair also used as bargaining tool. Administrative side of running the Institute.
Date range: c. 1950s - 1960s

Track 3 (length: 5 minutes 27 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Sexton introducing further issues raised by Wright. Switch from virology to immunology - a certain arrogance in Wright’s view. French the only man displaced but got another good job. "I was probably a bit of egoist", however aware of immunological advances. Importance of Clonal Selection Theory. Discussions with Nossal.
Date range: 1950s - 1950s

Track 4 (length: 5 minutes 18 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Think switching focus of institute from virology to immunology proved the right thing to do - base for Nossal’s establishment of first rate school of immunology. Keen to get status of himself and people he worked with raised. Moved to the University Department (after retirement from WEHI) with the intention of reading and writing and getting thoughts straight.
Stimulus to write. "I like writing". Once established reputation wanted to write on infectious disease, the ecological approach of Huxley/Wells 'Science of Life'.
Date range: 1950s - 1970s

Track 5 (length: 4 minutes 15 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Continuation of Track 4 - "always had that wish to generalize". Defence Research & Development Policy Committee. Interested in biological warfare from philosophical, defensive point of view. Start of "Dominant Mammal". Interested in philosophy of science, spinning speculative theories.
Date range: 1940s - 1970s

Track 6 (length: 4 minutes 23 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Continuation of Track 5. Three mental/emotional areas of vital importance: aggression/status; compassion; problem solving capacity (including science and the arts). Not keen on the concept of social responsibility. On the top of one peck order. Wish to be well regarded as someone worth listening to.
Date range: 1940s - 1980s

Track 7 (length: 4 minutes 09 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Great pleasure to retreat to study and think and observe. This more him than being a crusader. Virtual nothing haven’t spoken on regarding the biology aspects of x, y, z. Speaking outside area of expertise? The idea sometimes more important than being proved.
Date range: c.1970s - 1980s

Track 8 (length: 4 minutes 13 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: "The eternal amateur", a lover of curiosities. Two dreams. Dunne’s "An Experiment with Time" - contention that consciousness must move along a 5th dimension (allowing scope for two points in time simultaneously), dreams containing elements of recent past and very close future.
Date range: 1930s - 1980s

Track 9 (length: 5 minutes 18 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: 1937 death of third child; trip to Buffalo with Philip Berg? (pharmacologist); trip to Lake Tahnee?; Dreaming; subconscious; premonition; dream of snakes; Linda Burnet; Copenhagen to Amsterdam; dream of nitrogen bomb; Mark Oliphant.
Date range: 1937 -


Track 10 (length: 3 minutes 35 seconds)
Sound quality: reasonable
Content: Eleven dimensions of the Universe; Robert Graeves; second sight; dreams; 1949 vivid dream; neurology; Copenhagen; Copenhagen Serum Institute.
Date range:

Creator Frank Macfarlane Burnet
Control 16/16 Side B
Date range 193? - 198?    Quantity 1 cm, 1 CD
Formats digital numeric, text, sound and graphic or video inf
Inventory Identifier 18/026 Box Number 1 Series 18

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